well, we've been asking around about that because this chain link fence, the razor wire has been put in place and it's been built up for months and months now. so it's not like it's to we have been told by several border patrol officials here that there hasn't been any sign lately of just increased tensions. of course, all of this also happening at the same time in that there's been a lot of publicity and news surrounding senate bill four, the controversial immigration law that would allow state authorities to arrest migrants entering texas illegally. but it's not really clear whether or not that played a factor into all of this. it's important to point out at this point, we just don't know what, what what sparked to this confrontation today? >> no. but it is it is upsetting to see it on so many levels. i don't think anyone can deny that. all right. thank you very much. on the ground, they are in el paso and thanks so much to all of you for being with us ac30, 60 starts now

tonight, not 360 breaking news on the political death threat. donald trump made to >> mike pence just hours before pence faced real ones at the capitol on january 6, also tonight with less than four days left for him to pay up or c new york's attorney general start seizing his properties. we now know more about which one she has her eyes on plus a violent conflict convict and his alleged accomplice. the three cops shot the chase and the capture. how it all went down good evening. john berman here in for anderson and we begin tonight with breaking news straight from inside the west wing on january 6, what the former president was saying to mike pence, just hours before all hell broke loose at the capitol. and is reaction or more accurately, his non reaction on learning that in the chaos, one of his followers had just been shot dead. that and more from newly revealed testimony to the january 6 committee by a presidential valet are accounted any remarkable piece of reporting

from the new york times, loop broad water shares the by-line honore along with our friend maggie haberman, luke joins us. now, look, this do testimony includes information from this valet who saw odd all what did you learn from your reporting about what president trump, his conversations with mike pence >> right? this is the first time we're hearing firsthand testimony from this valet. now the valais was with trump, almost all day on january 6. and what he says he saw and heard was first in the morning, a phone call between donald trump and mike pence. now there's been a letter reporting on this phone call with the valais said is a little bit different from what others have said. he said that he told him in no uncertain terms that his political career would be over if he did not go along with the plans to overturn the election as you know, pencils resisting the effort to d certified the election. and in fact, trump turned out to be right. mike pence's career in republican politics was over after he did

not bend to trump's will the other big piece of information that stands out to me is that donald trump was passed a note after one of the rioters was shot in the capital and was made made clear that this person had been shot. this one had been shot in the chest and the valais says that he offered no reaction upon learning that he kept sitting in the chair watching the violence and play and for a on tv several states, a non reaction at the death of ashleigh babbitt, a non reaction was that his general attitude during much of this period, according to the ballet yeah. >> i the valley does say at one point that donald trump appeared concerned about the violence and said that that he should call mark milley or nancy pelosi. but the testimony we have is that president trump at the time never did that. mark milley testified that he received no call from president trump at all that day. so even if he did say that it really took no action about it. and then at the end of the day

after all the violence that happened after 150 police officers were injured the thing that donald trump says to the valais when they're one-on-one is that mike pence really let him down so that was really all still on his mind. was still his discipline appointment and his and his anger at his own vice president for not helping him overturn the election. and not what was not on his mind was that the riot and the violence that have just happened. >> so it's interesting, the valais testifies at the, toward the beginning of the day, he told mike pence it would be the end of his political career at the end of the day, mike pence let him now >> but yes, that's exactly right now. there's a couple other things i would like to point out. the valley also talks about how trump was tearing up documents that almost every document that he got, he would tear it up almost immediately, whether that was a picture, whether that was a. written document whether that was a newspaper article he would read it and destroy it. and i think that could be

useful information that prosecutors in the documents case in florida might want to take a look at obviously, his document retention policy and practices are part issue there. >> yeah. it's interesting some of this testimony modi can be used in two federal cases against donald trump. >> where's >> this information that you're getting coming from >> right? well, so this is interview that january 6 committee deal with the valais back in 2022. but it was sent to the white house for review and redaction if you recall, the january 6 committee shut down shortly after doing this. this has been sitting over at the white house in white house, counsel's office and house republicans who have been investigating the january 6 committee have been going back and trying to get these transcripts from the white house. and then release them. once they get them. so this came from from the house republican investigation. >> now >> they think there are some things in here that are good

for donald trump or at least less bad than what's known about donald trump. but there's also they acknowledged some very unflattering information about donald trump's behavior on january. >> it's all very revealing in good to see louk broad water thank you very much for sharing your reporting with us >> thank you. >> all right. now, keeping them on, it's just four days from now. the man who built his empire and fantasy will have to face facts about what it's really worth. four days from now, new york attorney general, letitia james gets to start collecting the nearly half $1,000,000,000 judgment donald trump now says he can not pay. and even as he has searched and failed to find a bonding company to put up the money for them. the attorney general has been preparing to seize his assets for starters, here, his manchin seven springs in westchester county, just north of new york city. he also was a golf club there today we learned that the ag's lawyers have filed paperwork registering the judgment in westchester the first step needed before taking property or putting a lien on it. the judgment is already on record in new york city, making all of

his properties here vulnerable to seizure. we also learned that the former president is getting antsy saying this about having to actually get a bond on or sell properties to raise it he goes that is crazy. he writes also, putting up money before an appeal is very expensive. all caps. now, just >> pause for a minute to consider that according to a new fec filing, his save america pac spent nearly five million on legal fees last month alone. that's about 200,000 some dollars a day, mostly from small donors. so yeah, to use his words, it is very expensive. weather expensive for him personally, is another question. in any case, trump goes on, the crooked judge who has already been overturned four times on this case. a record fully understands this. he gave us a demand which he knows is empty possible to do impossible. >> really >> this guy is worth a lot of money, billions and billions of billions of dollars happens, have a lot of cash. course he

has money. he's a billionaire we know that there will be a bond and there'll be no issues with that in fact, there are issues by her client's owned admission, more on this now from cnn's chief domestic correspondent, phil mattingly, who was with us now and fill the clock is ticking like, what are the options here to come up with $464 million by monday? what's so >> fascinating about this moment is for a candidate who has so definitely navigated, but also leveraged it's this unprecedented convergence of the legal and the political for the better part of a year, steamrolling is way to the republican nomination. this week has laid bare just how dramatic that strategy could be derailed in just a matter of days, i think the reality right now when you talk to people around trump, is he actually does have cash. he actually does have assets that amount to making him a billionaire. when you look at his financial disclosure, i went through the most recent one at length over the course of the last couple days, the problem is, it's not enough cash in many of those assets are real estate, which on-in companies won't actually

pursue. and that has left them dwindling options, including one that he just absolutely will not take they're tried to take us out. donald trump is insisted that he >> won't consider one option and the intense scramble to head off potential seizure of his prize properties. >> bankruptcy, no >> chance. one adviser said of the idea. he'd rather have letitia, james show up and try and seize his properties it's a position relay. do advisors sources say that cuts across concerns about political optics and his own scarring personal experience with the process it's also one that eliminates yet another pathway to delay payment of a judgment that would force him to come up with hundreds of millions of dollars in cash in just days. >> at >> the same moment, trump's political fundraising vehicles report funneling additional millions towards his personal legal fees. >> the clock >> ticking to secure what trump's lawyers say would be more than a half billion in

cash or cash equivalent to secure a bond or face possible seizure of those most valued properties, forcing him to sell prize properties such as trump tower, iconic properties like 40 wall street to pursue his appeal is manifest injustice for trump. >> it's a threat that cuts to his core, both politically and personally. one than tied to his loss in the fraud case carries no shortage of irony have you look at my cache now with all of the money i waste on the legal fees and all this stuff that we're all going through. i think thank you very much with all of that. i have over 400 fairly substantially over $400 million in cash >> that was a point trump also made more than a half dozen times in his january testimony in the fraud case and it's true >> a cnn review of trump's most recent candidate financial disclosure form, where candidates list asked sets in liabilities and ranges peg trump's available cash between roughly $250,000,000.1000000000

a source close to trump's business operations. so the actual number is roughly between 360,400 million a significant sum for a developer but it's trump's own lawyers made clear not nearly enough to secure a bond with little precedent a practical impossibility, they said no fewer than 30 insurance firms turning down the task each requiring cash as collateral including one chubb that underwrote a 91.63 million bond. >> just two >> weeks ago in another trump legal loss, e jean carroll's defamation case, trump and his team now scrambling with dwindling options to address a judgment, a campaign spokesman called unjust, unconstitutional , un-american there's his legal appeal to waive or reduce the bond. a flurry of rumors about whether trump's billionaire political donors will pony up the cache. and also questions about whether they'd seek foreign assistance from countries like saudi arabia or russia.

>> there's rules and regulations that are public. i can't speak about strategy that require certain things and we have to follow those rules and sources saying that steadfast refusal can trump himself to consider personal or business bankruptcy, burned by his own experience with six bankruptcies decades ago, i learned that it's certainly not something you want to go through again, i also learned about loyalty >> indeed, trump's team has true to form, utilize the candidates legal threat to boost its political war chest and texting email appeals, an effort to overcome trump's political cash problems with president joe biden holding a substantial cash advantage less than eight months before election day >> all right. fill stick around. i also want to bring in cnn's legal analyst, elie honig, pollster and communication strategies. frank lawns and cnn's kara scannell, and phil, i don't think any was better suited to understand the politics and the money cited this and you are with all your experience and reporting but the legal side in the legal bills that donald trump has been shouldering. well, is he

really shouldering them? how much or is donor is paying for his legal troubles? yeah, i love fec filings how could you not >> he's not shouldering >> much, if any, at this point, it's laid bare in the fec filings federal election commission filings, just last night, save america pac. it's his leadership pac. one of his fundraising vehicles. and the money that it has spent just in the last month, 5.6 million in 2023, alone, more than $50 and here's the irony of all that, because he is the presumptive nominee. now as the joint fundraising agreement with the republican national committee, they just announced today that window corners give the maximum amount to that joint committee first amount goes to trump's campaign committee. the second amount before going to any of the state parties that are aligned to goes to that pack. they say it does a lot of other things beyond foot the legal bills, but boy, does it foot millions and legal bills, legal bills before the rnc? the rnc sort of gets the bronze here. >> ellie, >> one story line as bubbling right now and could play a big factor is truth, social, this social media company that donald trump has a stake in. it's going public potentially

within days, there is important announcements and votes on it in the next several hours, almost. could this money be used? this is >> the donald trump easiest aspect of this story, right? i mean, true social, the very network that he started because he got thrown off of twitter and other sites. very network that he uses to criticize this case now, just might give him the cash infusion he needs. so here's the deal pending a vote tomorrow, which seems likely to go through truth, social will become a publicly traded company. now, donald trump is the largest shareholder in truth social and depends pending on where you look. >> it >> looks like his shares are worth something in the multiple billions of dollars to to 4 billion are. now there's legit questions over whether that's a legitimate valuation. it's what's sometimes known as a meme stock, where people prop up the value of a stock for reasons unrelated to the actual value of the company. but here's the catch for donald trump. here's the problem. >> he has to wait six months. he cannot sell it for six months unless he goes back to

the shareholders and gets a waiver, get special permission, but this may be his best chance to actually get that infusion of cash. >> it's a lot of money and a lot of people are propping up the value of that stock right now. so care of film star is peace by talking about bankruptcy, which is an avenue which donald trump does doesn't seem to want to take. so put that aside for a second here. >> what about that >> other sound we heard from alina habba, his lawyer who won answer whether he would take the money from a potential foreign source, like a for-in rich brand, right? >> she dodges that question there and doesn't address that. trump is desperate in a sense to get this money in time if he's going to get to stop the new york attorney general's office from going to seize his properties and there is always the specter that a foreign business or a foreign government could offer him the money that they haven't said publicly, they haven't said privately what they would do if they were offered a big chunk to take this off the table, mean? his son-in-law, jared kushner, has about 2 billion and saudi money. i mean, that's not for him to spend as

he pleases, but there are different pockets of foreign money that are out there i mean, i've talked to an expert today in this who said, if he did take foreign money, it would have to be disclosed. it would have to come out and the judge doesn't. gordon, who shoot this judgment against trump today told the monitor in that case that any efforts trump is doing to try to get a surety bond. she is to know about it. he's instructed the trump organization to inform her, so he is in fact going to try to shed some light on this if it doesn't come out through the appeals process. and of course, the new york attorney general's office, i'm sure we'll want to a question that because as everyone has discussed, this raises a lot of potential issues of conflict of interests, which we all experienced in the last trump administration. what to watch that going forward. all right, frank, the politics of this folks in the biden campaign are already starting to refer to donald trump is broke dawn, which is interesting. and then there is the possibility that the new york attorney general, letitia james would have to start or would start seizing assets, maybe even buildings. how do you think that would play >> i want you to remember this

moment and don't forget it if the new york attorney general starts to take his homes away starts to seize his assets. so all going to be on camera panera is going to sit during scream about this. this man cannot be elected you're going to create the greatest victim hood of 2024, and you're going to elect donald trump if they take his stuff, he's going to say that this is proof that the federal government and the establishment in the swamp and washington and all the politicians across the country and the attorneys generals and all of this that this is a conspiracy to deny him the presidency. he's going to go up in the polls just like he went up every single time they indicted him the indictment let's not talk about whether it's justified or not, but it will prove the things that he's saying on the campaign trail and he will go up and it may just elected president. do not forget that. and i say this

to the attorney general right now. if you play politics on this, this is what the secretary of state did in college corrado. and what they did in i believe is main his numbers went up in both states i don't understand. i'm almost speechless. >> and how >> pathetic the opposition to trump has been, and how completely misguided this is a perfect example of it. >> what do you do about that? >> i mean, my biggest question, this is the beauty of frank having his job, which i don't have is that happened. what you're talking about main colorado when you're talking about what happened in a primary and while i don't disagree at the optics, i've spoken to people inside trump-world who are saying, instead of bankruptcy, we said in the piece, come to trump tower, please. we'll have cameras. there will have that fight will win that optics battle. i think the bigger question is in a general election and given the fact that the biden campaign is really latched onto this in a way that they haven't in most legal it's a product that he

was joking about it last night at a fundraiser as well that was off camera. whether or not that rise in the polls can carry into a general election aud, and, you know better than, i mean, you're talking to people you know about how is donald trump beating joe biden? >> he's >> got 85 indictments has still exist. felonies >> how is he beating joe biden with the economy getting better and things cleaning up okay. you got it. so of inflation, you still got immigration. trump is leading. and in these seven swing states trump is up by the margin of error in five hours seven why is that happening? because his critics are stupid and they're running a horrible campaign. and for those people who do not want job, donald trump back, they should be thankful that the people who are orchestrating his loss are as pathetic and they don't understand the american people quick, less work. >> i'm not so sure it's a smart strategy for joel biden to be making fall of poor don because how often does donald trump say this is all biden prosecutions, biden cases and we fact check him correctly to

say no evidence this is coming from the white house and it's not. but it certainly creates an impression when joe biden is spiking the ball and doing a dance about these cases. so i'm not the political advisor and legally there's no connection but it does create an appearance that there's some celebration going on. >> we'll look, we'll see what happens the next few days and we will see what consequences come to pass very soon. elie honig, franklin's phil mattingly, kara scannell. thank you. one at all. next, we have breaking news on the capturable of violent inmate and his alleged accomplice after an escape that left three comps wounded plus new video at a live report from the southern border were violence erupted between migrants and national guard troops welcome to the waiver hoods, wayfair vibe at airplane western. >> my thing, darling >> gardening >> some of us go how did i know we've your head vanities entitled >> this

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different car and then drove south east. they were spotted in twin falls, which is about 130 miles southeast of where i am. there was a short chase and then the two were arrested. authorities now saying they're investigating the escape. and also those two killens >> we are investigating two homicides at separate locations. these are potentially tied to this incident after an armed assailant open fire during the transport of an inmate, ideal? >> the prisoner white male as one shirtless skylar meade in route back to what the idaho correction department classifies as the highest level of maximum security incarceration. two corrections officers were shot in that braise and getaway authorities say was a planned attack. >> he was in restraints while he was being escorted out of the out of the hospital. this was a planned event and we're channeling every resource we have and trying to understand exactly how they went about planning it meat was hospitalized on tuesday night for quote, self-injurious

behavior on-site medical determined that he needed to be transported off site for emergent care? >> and escaped just after 02:00 a.m. wednesday, as he was being escorted back to state prison or he's been incarcerated since 2016 and sentenced until 2030 the inmate and his accomplice, identified by police as nicholas umphenour, fled just before responding officers arrived. we >> found the vehicle a escaped in up in northern idaho and they took another vehicle, umphenour is now accused of aggravated battery against law enforcement and aiding and abetting an escape. law enforcement officials say both are members of a white supremacist prison gang during the manhunt authorities released this description of meade >> he has tattoos on his face. >> the >> number one on one side of his face, and the number 11 on the other side? there's a

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>> well, so much information there is still so much to learn camaro learn, thank you so much. now to the southern border in el paso, texas hundreds of migrants rushing past razor wire and national guard troops then arrested. now it's unclear what led up to all this. before turning to war 11, der on the scene. i just want to pause and let you see how it played out. >> all right. now, seeing ed lavandera is there for us tonight. and what do you know about what happened here, how it played out >> well, it's really important to point out here. we don't know exactly what instigated or what led up to these very tense

moments that occurred but just behind me that wall that you see in the fence where the migrants ran up to is this wall back here. now this border wall has existed here in el paso for quite some time beyond that, another several 100 yards or so, you start getting to the rio grande and that is the international boundary line. and just along the river's edge is where we have seen texas national guard state trooper first a buildup the fortification of razor wire and chain link fence, and that has been taking place taken place over the last few months. so where you saw those migrants? confronting the national guard soldiers there on the ground that is already on us soil. we were told that it was a large group of people. we might customs and border protection officials, we've also been told that it was several hundred migrants that rushed up here to the border wall should point out that all of those migrants were taken into border patrol custody. we watched as they were put it up on buses and taken to a border patrol processing facility in that work continues tonight. we've been told some of them will have asylum applications.

others will be deported. so hard to say exactly what will happen definitively to all of them at this point because that processing is still on going. but as we mentioned kind of tents scenes here, john and as this unfolded just before noon time here in el paso. and as we mentioned, that exactly clear what sparked it or what led to that intense confrontation as those migrants rush towards the border wall, you see behind me i'm in general add up and down there. >> has there been an >> uptick in migrants trying to cross an el paso? what's the situation been there the last several days >> actually the migrant crossings have dropped rather dramatically from the record highs that we saw in december. in fact, we've been told by the department of homeland security officials that the numbers have dropped almost 50% here in the el paso area. it's been last year, told about about it 1,000 a day and so those numbers are quite dramatically lower then what they have been that was and then on top of that, we've also been told that there had been any really clear indications

that there were some bubbling tension over the last few days that might have been kind of a precursor or an indication of something like this unfolding. so we've been disgrace has been described as an isolated incident so far because that was described to us earlier today. >> all right. and we'll let you get back to report and great to have you there. thank you very much >> next >> exclusive new cnn reporting and how fani willis plans to get her trial of the former president back in gear and before a jury this summer we're building a better postal service all parts working in sync to move your business forward for more value, more reliability, and more on-time deliveries. the united states postal service built for how you business. >> if you have chronic kidney disease, you can reduce the risk of kidney failure with parse sega because there are places who'd like to be or secret can cause serious side effects, including ketoacidosis that may be fatal, dehydration,

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request went on answer to this point, a move to ask a second time for him to set a trial date to put something on the calendar, would really represent a really hard pivot for willis, as you know, we've spent the last two months talking about whether or not fani willis should be disqualified from this case over allegations of an improper relationship with her top prosecutor and now it's clear that she's trying to get this case back on track and get it into a courtroom four trials scenario before trump is on the ballot again, in the 2024 election. now, judge mcafee did ultimately rule that da will is could continue to prosecute the case. but that's not necessarily the end of the story. she could still face disqualification, correct? >> yeah. that's absolutely right. and look, what one of the things about maccabees order while he did say that you could stay on this case, he issued a scathing rebuke of her and really dig her credibility and said that her actions were really improper and frankly set up an appeals court to possibly take up and review his order and they could overturn an appeals court could also say no, they don't want to take it up. they've got 45 days to make that decision, but yes, the possibility of

disqualification is still very much hangs over fani willis, even as she's pushing to get this case to trial before the election. and now, just because their connections everywhere here, the supreme court is set to rule on whether donald trump has claims of immunity are valid. does that have to be resolved at the federal level before this georgia trial dataset yes. >> john supreme court ruling >> and that's really the biggest question mark in addition to the disqualificatio n question we just talked about. but that does not have to be decided for a trial date to be said. that's what sources told me, sources close to the da's office are pushing they think that mcafee can set a trial date and put this issue of immunity to the side, even though it will directly impact and could potentially the change the future and outcome of this case in georgia, as well as jack smith's federal case in dc. is that cohen great to have you do great reporting on this subject. thanks so much for being with this perspective now, from ashleigh merchant, the lawyer who led the effort to remove fani willis. she represents michael roman, a former trump campaign operative, and now co-defendant

counselor. how likely do you think it is that this trial really is able to begin this summer as de a fani willis is now pushing for i think it's very unlikely. i never thought that we would be able to start this trial this summer. now, with all of the other issues that we've had, the disqualification and the appeal, i think gets completely impossible that it would be able to be started as early as this summer >> too many >> people, too many to10 defendants, too many defense lawyers, too much evidence, just too much us to corral in such a short amount of time. >> would you like to see it start this summer >> love to see it start i'm not for that. we'll be ready this summer and part of the reason that we're having trouble getting ready is because the district attorney is still giving us discovery. so if they had been able to give us all of the discovery as soon as they indicted the case. we could have hit the ground running. we had to wait. we've gotten it in six different turns. and so we continue to get more discovery. and as we get more discovery, more witnesses, we have to go through that and see if there's anything relevant

and prepare that for our case. and so that's the problem with with getting ready as discovery is still ongoing. >> for donald trump, it's always seemed pretty clear that one of his goals and all of the legal cases against him, one of his goals is to delay and delay as much as possible how much of a goal is that for you and your client? >> i want a, different posture. you know, i think everybody in this case is a little bit different position. our goal has never been to delay the case. our goal has been to get a fair trial. >> i think nobody wants to try. and his twice. and so we want to make sure that when we try the case, it is a fair trial. it is adjust result. and hopefully my client and the community gets justice and the only way to do that is to make sure that it's a fair a fair process that we have an impartial prosecutor on the case. and so that's our overwhelming goal, whether it takes a short amount of time or a long amount of time. >> as you well know, judge mcafee, who you've been dealing with a lot. granted requests from donald trump and his co-defendants, one of whom you are representing, to appeal the decision will allow the

district attorney to continue prosecute the case. the move doesn't pause the prosecution for now, but it allows appeals on the disqualification to play up before the trial. how long do you think that process will take? >> usually the appellate process takes about six months, so the first stage is whether or not the court of appeals is actually going to take it. that's about 45 days. if they decide they're going to take it it takes about six months. but if they don't take it, then we still have the right to go to the supreme court. so that could also add some time in that front but usually the appellate process is salt in a six months. >> let's talk about jury selection. if this case does happen to begin as soon as august, how long do you think jury selection in a big rico case like this will take because it is separate rico case and fulton county, the one involving the rapper young thug, jury selection lesson what, ten months? >> it did. and i was actually involved in that case early on, my client pled out early on in the process. so i was not likely involved in the laundry selection, but i think it's going to be a very lengthy process. and the reason is

we're going to have to find jurors who have not already made up their mind. there's no way we're going to find her or that don't know about this case. there's no way that they're not going to already have some type of an opinion. the question is going to be whether or not they can put that aside and be fair and impartial. it's going to take a very long amount of time just to be clear, everything you were saying to us tonight seems to be saying it's gonna take a long, long time, you know, won't get started at anytime soon. delay, delay, delay, but you insist that you don't want to delay, correct? >> don't and you know, one of the things that we could do if we didn't want to delay was we could sever these these defendants and we could try each case individually. the problem with rico cases with very broad cases is delays just inevitable. >> i >> mean, it's just inevitable when you have 19 defendants and 19 defense lawyers who have conflicts lives patients do i mean just a ton of things that i can throw in that's what causes these these cases to go on so long. >> ashleigh merchant. thank you so much for your time >> and thanks for having me >> probably just ahead. rfk

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powering progress >> this source with kaitlan collins. next >> we have exclusive new reporting from haiti tonight, where there is still no political leadership in no end to deadly gang violence today, the state department said is has helped more than it has helped more than 160 americans get out of haiti. ordinary haitians, though, they can't leave and against the lawless reality, they face, some were taking justice into their own hands. that story and the images of it are graphic, seen as david culver reports my body just sitting right in the middle of the street there >> people are trying to figure out best way to get around it >> across the street. this family rushes into a truck shielding their little ones

eyes and effort to preserve what innocence is left here in haiti the gruesome sights slowing but not stopping the morning rush hour. >> and you can even see here, look at this, i'll police cars is going right past and it will continue on does it even stop a >> neighbor explains how an overnight gang attack ended in vigilante killings of gunfire, shooting what's this man says? he and more than 50 others immediately set out to find those terrorizing their neighborhood they surrounded a man. they didn't recognize and you believe he was a gang member? >> we really a gun >> carrying machetes. he tells me they carried out justice as he sees it the only way they know to defend themselves now we've invented by live on when they come in shooting all around, trying to scare us to flee, we won't just let them kill us. they have to die. he tells me >> the way you see this is kill or be killed

>> we really police, don't condone the killings, but they are overwhelmed and overrun and they don't have time to stop them there are daily gun battles in the capital as police struggled to push the gangs back the, officers have willpower, but little adults we see that firsthand as we patrol with haiti's national police there are no front lines in this war. the boundaries are blurred and they're constantly shifting and these officers no driving around in an armored vehicle like this. well, they expect to be shot they're moving targets >> they cruise through gang territory, revealing a city in ruins and on fire >> at this intersection, we find another gruesome scene three bodies have eaten by dogs and still smoldering people

desperate for food and for shelter. even if it is in the shell of what was once a government building. >> i mean, this is just a symbol of state collapse here more than 1,500 we have now occupied this building and made it their own mostly children come out when you say and there were those who line up for hours trying to get visas to go anywhere. but here what do the left guy moved >> certainly different security. but there's my chops in only there's no jobs. are you running after is wherever we aren't >> the gangs. >> and now pocketing more affluent areas what's left of an atm is still in there >> they're trying to show themselves as robin hoods or stuff, but they're just they're just they're criminals >> per street vendors like this woman who still have fruits to sell. no customers to buy them

because folks can afford most these items >> bad devil >> more troubling for her. >> the horrors she >> witnesses on these streets many people have died. she tells me, and i have to make trips to pick them up we see that for ourselves as we head back just before curfew medics, clearing the remains of that suspected gang member they hurry not to save a life but to pick up two more bodies on the same street here in haiti, humanity has disintegrated into a brutal fight for survival and david culver was with us now, david, what's playing out in the gang territory tonight >> john, that area that we were embedded with police earlier today and we can actually show you some of the images in which

we're driving through. and it almost seemed like it was bombed out neighborhoods that has slowly then rayon habit it. i mean, it felt like something that was out of this world, quite frankly but in that community, just like our show after we left, it started increasing with gunfire and a police confrontation with gangs. one that lasted several hours. and on occasion here just as we've been preparing to go live, we were hearing some more gunshots that were told as a police operation that has ended with police killing a gang leader who is among those who escaped recently and that recent prison outbreak. they also confirm that several gang members were killed. john, however, for them it's about trying to hold the line officers continuing to struggle with that >> david culver in hayden and i'd stay safe. my friend. thank you so much for your reporting the news continues. the source was special guest star sara sidner, starts right now straight from the source